![]() The DEFCON 5 exercise term is “Fade Out.” DEFCON 4ĭEFCON 4 describes the everyday operating procedures for fighting units.Īt DEFCON 4, the U.S. "That's a bonus.DEFCON 5 represents “a normal readiness posture which can be sustained indefinitely and which represents an optimum balance between the requirements of readiness and the routine training and equipping of forces for their primary mission,” according to a Joint Chiefs of Staff description of this level when the DEFCON system was first introduced. "If you come here you really can't take work home with you," George said. The NSA's secretive nature also brings a positive side-effect in striking a work-life balance. You can be internally famous, but you can't be externally famous," George said. "You're not going to make yourself famous working here, that's the downside. And we need help, the country needs help," he said.īut there is one big difference about winning bragging rights at public competitions versus inside the NSA enclosure. "We have a wonderful atmosphere, we have great people and we have the hardest problems on Earth. The NSA can attract hackers to work within its cloistered walls by dazzling them with the latest technology, appealing to their competitive nature, and giving them a sense of working for the greater good, George said. George would not name countries that pose high threats but other intelligence officials have expressed concern about China's growing cyber-warfare capabilities, as well as Russia's. "That's a big problem for us, trying to identify the real threat from among all the stuff that's not really threatening." Among constant pings from teenagers just fooling around, "the real bad guy can hide in that noise," George said. He explained that it was like finding a single needle in a pile of needles - much more difficult than in a haystack. "In fact we need to worry about significant adversaries hiding among the ankle biters." "So we need to worry about everybody," George said. Unlike the threat from nuclear weapons where it is clear which countries have that capability, cyber attacks can come from anywhere. Of the latter he says with a laugh: "It would not be good to let them in your front door." He drew a distinction between hackers with skills and computer criminals. It's a self-appointed label - you think like one or you don't," Moss told Reuters. It's not like you go to a hacker university and get blessed with a badge that says you're a hacker. ![]() "They need people with the hacker skill set, hacker mind-set. He founded Defcon and the companion Black Hat conference for security professionals and is now a member of the Department of Homeland Security's Advisory Council, which advises the government on cyber security. Jeff Moss, a hacker known as Dark Tangent, knows something about bridging the two worlds. The agency has long been known for its brilliant, but sometimes eccentric, mathematicians and linguists. We've been in some sense a collection of geeks for a long, long time." ![]() "And it's a bonus if they're wearing shoes. "When I walk down the hall there are people that I see every day and I never know what colour their hair's going to be," George said.
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